Michigan Unemployment – Know Your Rights

  Last Verified: January 2017  

Michigan has undergone some difficult financial hardships in recent years. As a result, many businesses have been forced to close leaving thousands of citizens unemployed. While the unemployment rate has improved substantially since the most recent recession reached its peak, the state’s workers still face a volatile employment situation, especially in the manufacturing industries that made the state an economic powerhouse in the past.

Recent troubles with the state’s new computer system, MiDAS, caused additional hardships. The system, meant to streamline the process for filing unemployment benefit claims, instead erroneously accused tens of thousands of benefit recipients of fraud and denied claims for more. An audit showed the error rate was 93%.

State auditors recommended a top to bottom review and for the UIA to make changes, according to the Detroit Free Press. However, the UIA failed to take the auditors recommendations. In January 2017, the state removed the director of the agency amidst allegations that the agency failed to pursue the employers who didn’t pay the taxes that funds the unemployment insurance program.

The most recent audit of the UIA, likely the one that caused the personnel shake-up, reveals continuing problems. This is compounded by the lawsuits by aggrieved claimants and a court order for the UIA to stop pursuing overpayments through collection activities.

The state’s workers face a daunting task in simply filing a claim. It is therefore imperative that you understand the process before seeking assistance from the agency.

Eligibility

In order to determine whether or not you can receive Michigan unemployment benefits, you must meet the eligibility requirements. The state will first determine whether you have earned enough wages from an employer covered by the unemployment insurance program over a 12-month period.

If you have earned enough wages, the state will look at other issues to determine eligibility. Those issues include:get unemployment benefits in Michigan

  • Whether you are unemployed through no fault of your own
  • Whether you are able and available to accept suitable employment
  • Whether you are in fact a Michigan resident and allowed to work in the US legally

If you do qualify for benefits, you will have to remain eligible as long as you receive benefits. You will have to show you are  actively seeking work, and you can’t refuse a reasonable job offer. The UIA requires you to register for work by submitting your resume with the Michigan Talent Bank and visiting your local Michigan Works service center.

Eligibility Requirements Explained

Unemployed Through No Fault of Your Own

Generally, if your actions or decisions did not cause your separation from work, you will receive benefits if otherwise eligible. Lay offs and businesses closing are common examples of this. If you quit for a “good cause connected to your work,” you may be eligible. Your employer may fire you; however, unless your actions rise to the level of “misconduct” as defined by the state law, you may be eligible even though dismissed.

Able and Available

You must be physically and mentally able to work when you file a claim, and must remain available while you receive benefits.

Legal to Work in the US

You must be a US citizen or have an alien registration card to be eligible to receive unemployment. You must present proof of such when you apply.

Monetary Eligibility and the Base Period

There are also financial requirements you must meet for Michigan unemployment benefits. The UIA will look at your wages during your base period (the first 4 of the last 5 calendar quarters from when you file your claim).

unemployment base period

This chart shows the base period.

The state requires that:

  • You must have wages in at least 2 quarters of your base period
  • You must earn at least $3,298 in at least one of those quarters.
  • The total wages for all four quarters must be 1.5x your highest earning quarter from your base period.

If you are filing for unemployment for the first time, you must have worked for at least one but no more than 19 employers during the previous 18 months. You also cannot have filed for unemployment with another state within the past year (12 months). Lastly, you cannot have worked under more than 1 social security number in the past 18 months.

If you don’t qualify under this standard test, you may under the Alternate Earnings Qualifier test.

  • You must have wages in at least two quarters
  • Your base period wages have to be at least 20 times the state average weekly wage

Maximum Benefit Amount

The state also uses the wages you earned during the base period to determine how much you’ll receive each week, your weekly benefit amount (WBA). The UIA examiner calculates your WBA by multiplying your highest quarterly total of wages by 4.1%, adding $6.00 per dependent (up to 5 dependents) and rounding down to the nearest dollar.

The maximum WBA in Michigan is currently $362 per week.

The state limits the number of weeks each claimant may receive benefits. The number of weeks you can receive benefits is multiplying your total base period wages by 43%, then dividing that number by your WBA and rounding the number down.

You can receive benefits for a maximum of 20 weeks during the benefit year.

Applying for Benefits

You may file for Michigan unemployment insurance online or by phone. You’ll file online using the Michigan Web Account Manager (MiWAM).

Before beginning your application there is some information that you will need. You will need:

  • Your social security number
  • Drivers license or state ID number
  • If you have filed before, you will need your PIN number
  • Information for all employers in the past 18 months (name, address, phone number, wages)

To file over the phone call 1-866-500-0017.

If you do not have your employer’s information from the past 18 months you must file by phone. Also, your weekly benefits amount will not be determined by the wages you claim in your application. The UIA will not determine your benefits amount until they have documentation of your wages.

Maintaining Eligibility and Weekly Claims

The UIA requires that you maintain the eligibility status you had when you filed your successful initial claim for benefits. To verify this, the state requires that you file a claim each week to receive your WBA.

You can file with MiWAM online or call the Michigan Automated Response Voice Interactive Network (MARVIN) and request payment at 1-866-638-3993.

You’ll need to present your social security number and the Personal Identification Number you set up when you filed your initial claim.

You can file a weekly claim online at any time. If you use MARVIN, you will have to follow the calling schedule. Use the last two digits of your social security number to find the day and time you can call.

TIME
MONDAY
TUESDAY
WEDNESDAY
8:00 – 9:00
00-01-02-03
34-35-36
67-68-69
9:00 – 10:00 
04-05-06 
37-38-39 
70-71-72 
10:00 – 11:00
07-08-09
40-41-42
73-74-75
11:00 – 12:00
10-11-12
43-44-45
76-77-78
12:00 – 1:00
13-14-15
46-47-48
79-80-81
1:00 – 2:00
16-17-18
49-50-51
82-83-84
2:00 – 3:00
19-20-21
52-53-54
85-86-87
3:00 – 4:00
22-23-24
55-56-57
88-89-90
4:00 – 5:00
25-26-27
58-59-60
91-92-93
5:00 – 6:00
28-29-30
61-62-63
94-95-96
6:00 – 7:00
31-32-33
64-65-66
97-98-99

Once you call into the system or file the weekly claim online, you will be asked a series of questions regarding your status. MARVIN will ask several questions regarding:

  • Whether you are able to work
  • Whether you are available to work
  • Whether you are looking for work
  • Whether you have started or quit a job
  • Whether you have any wages or income to report
  • Whether you have refused any job offers

The system may instruct you to contact a claims office to provide additional information.

If you miss that schedules time you can call during regular business hours. Even if your scheduled time happens to be on a holiday, MARVIN will still be available. If you miss the week completely, you will have to call a customer service agent to show a good cause why you missed, or face losing that week of payments.

Part-time Work and Eligibility

The UIA makes allowances for those who work infrequently by offering “flexible week benefits.” You can request a payment every two weeks if you earn 1.5 times your WBA in two consecutive weeks, then experience a week where you earn no wages.

You must call 1-866-500-0017 to speak with a customer service rep or resolve the issue using MiWAM if you want to claim flexible week benefits.

If you do work during a week but don’t earn in excess of 1.5 times your WBA, the state will deduct money from your WBA that week. To estimate what you’ll receive, subtract your earnings from 1.5 times your WBA.

If you earn at least 1.5 times your WBA or more for any week, you won’t receive benefits for that week.

You must report wages earned in the week you worked to earn them, not the week you received payment.

Work Search Requirement

You will have had to register with Michigan Works! when you filed your initial claim. You may benefit from registering before you file a claim.

The state requires proof that you are making a serious effort to find a job. You must report your efforts to the UIA using a PDF form you can complete online.

You must make at least two job contacts per week to satisfy the requirement. A “job contact” could be filing out an application or contacting a person who is in a position to hire employees. A generic job search will not count.

Michigan unemployment insurance

The state offers specific assistance to workers who may have difficulty finding employment, like workers with job experience not currently in demand. They UIA will contact you if you are selected for such assistance. You may receive training in job search and resume writing skills or retraining for other careers. If the UIA calls you to participate, you have to or face losing eligibility.

Suitable Employment

You may not turn down a job unless it is one you aren’t trained to perform or the salary is below what you were paid previously. Jobs like those are considered to be suitable employment. However, if you have been out of work for half of your benefit weeks, you must accept job offers that pay at least 120% of your WBA. Such jobs may be outside of your skillset.

Payments

During your application, you will be asked how you would like to receive your payments. You can either receive payments into a prepaid debit card or through direct deposit into your bank account. If you would like direct deposit you can enter in your bank’s information when you apply. For more information on payment method, you can visit http://www.michigan.gov/documents/uia/Michigan_UI_051208_v6_no_Chaselogo_236446_7.pdf.

Reasons for Denial of Benefits

When you file your initial claim, the UIA will observe your wages during your base period. They will send you the findings in a statement of Monetary Determination. The sheet will show whether you are eligible, and if you are, how much you’ll receive weekly.

If you are not eligible, the state will deny your benefits. You may request a redetermination if you have additional evidence of your wages. You can request one if you disagree with the amount of your WBA.

If you are qualified because of wages, the state may still deny your claim for other reasons. Most often, the state denies benefits because of separation issues. If your actions or decisions led to your separation from work, the state may deny benefits.

If you quit for reasons not connected to work, the state may deny benefits even though you feel you had a good reason, like starting school. Your decision, unrelated to work, led to your separation.

If your employer dismissed you for repeated violations of policy after repeated warnings, your actions caused the separation from work. This is called “misconduct connected to the work.”

There may be reasons not related to separation issues or the monetary determination that leads to a denial of benefits. You may not receive benefits if you are incarcerated. You will not be available to accept suitable employment, for example.

Quit and Still Eligible

If you quit work for a “good cause” connected to the job, you may still be eligible for benefits even though quitting was your decision. Your employer may have forced you to work under unsafe conditions or may have substantially reduced your pay. The state will expect that you took steps to try and save the job before quitting, like speaking with your supervisor about the situation several times.

Fired and Still Eligible

Your employer may have fired you for some violation of their rules, which is their right in many occupations (where you are an “at will” employee). However, the state may not consider your actions to be “misconduct connected to the work.” For example, you are fired for being late after working at the job for two months. You were never late before and had no other disciplinary actions. The one-time violation may not be misconduct. Severe one-time violations, like violence on the job, are likely to cause the state to deny the claim.

Misconduct Not Connected to Work

If you are dismissed for something that happened while you weren’t working, the UIA may consider the event disqualifying even though it wasn’t “connected to work.” You may have failed a drug test or you were arrested on your day off.

What Happens When Benefits are Denied: The Appeal Process

If your claim for benefits was denied, you have an opportunity to appeal the decision. Your letter of denial will state the reason why you were denied. If you feel the reasoning was unfair or incorrect here are the steps you need to take.

You can request a redetermination within 30 days of receiving your original determination. If after the redetermination you are unsatisfied you can file an appeal to the Michigan Administrative Hearing System.  You can use this form for your appeal: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/uia_1733-M_86461_7.pdf. You may mail your appeals form to:

UIA
P.O. Box 124
Grand Rapids, MI 49501

You may also fax your appeal to 1-616-356-0739.

If you are denied benefits, please visit our section on appealing benefits decision in Michigan.

Resources

Here are some useful resources for more information on Michigan unemployment.

Official Michigan Unemployment Website

http://www.michigan.gov/uia/

Michigan Job Market information

http://www.milmi.org/

General Information

http://www.michiganadvantage.org/Unemployment-Insurance/

Unemployment Insurance Forms

http://www.michigan.gov/uia/0,4680,7-118-1360—,00.html

Learn about the Appeals process

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/uia_UC1800_76144_7.pdf

For Job Assistance:

  • Michigan Talent Bank

https://www.michworks.org/mtb/user/MTB_EMPL.EntryMainPage

  • Michigan Works

http://michiganworks.org/

 

235 comments

  • Jenni Gordon

    Hi, I have been entering my job searches into MIWAM as I apply. Do I still have to enter them when I do my claim weeks? Definitely dont want to mess this up.

  • Kara Nicolosi

    Hi I work for a cIty but am an at will- employee with a contract but not 1099. I asked my HR manager if my grant ends early due to lack of funding, do I qualify for unemployment and she told me to check with the Unemployment Office. Please advise of who I can contact regarding this issue.

  • Katrina

    Hello,

    I resigned from my job of 20 years on May 29, 2017 to start my own child care center. My business is a Low Profit Limited Liability Company (L3C) in Michigan. Operated by a single member. I am not on payroll my expenses out weigh my revenue. I am not able to pay myself and barely meeting payroll each week.

    Am I eligible to claim unemployment. I’m even looking for supplemental income working in the evenings or weekends no luck yet.

  • Jennifer Duehring

    I have worked at the same company for 4 years. 3 years ago the office managers daughter came to work for us and there has been nepotism in the office ever since. I have tried to talk to the office manager about it but she says we are being mean and don’t like her because she’s her daughter. Her daughter can do whatever she wants and gets away with it. I went to the Drs (I work at a dr office) and told them what was going on. 2 days later I’m in the office managers office and I’m getting in trouble for not following chain of command, which I did go to her first and she did nothing, and if that happened again I would be fired. Just recently her daughter has been saying things to her and trying to get me in trouble. It is a completely unfair and stressful work environment. I’ve even went to my own Dr twice within the last few months with singles and ulcers because of the stress. If I quit do I have a chance at getting unemployment?

    • You need a doctors statement that stress from your work environment is causing shingles and ulcers and that he recommends a change of work environment. You write your employer providing the doctors statement, citing the issues causing this stress, and ask that employer correct the problem. If employer doesn’t correct the problem, you quit. If you’re lucky, they’ll fire you. It’s much easier to get benefits under a discharge. Employer may cite “misconduct” but they will have to prove whatever misconduct they cite. You’re in a difficult spot – whether you quit or are discharged – chances are you will be denied and need to appeal to have the facts of your case properly examined.

  • Michael ODonnell

    My company was on a 2 week shutdown starting June 30-July 16th. I’ve been back to work since then. Can I still file for unemployment for the two weeks I was off, or is it too late now? Thank you

  • Dennis

    I received a letter that I am no longer eligible for benefits due to late registration for work. I actually registered a month early but did not know I had to go to mi works and have it verified. I have the registration verification email from mi talent showing that I registered a month early. I just got it verified and my question is this. Is the email from mi talent enough to prove that I registered on time? I technically registered just like I was told to do. They can’t expect me to know that I had to physically go there and have it verified. There is no way I would have known that.

  • Amelia

    One more quick question, are there any rules about being eligible for unemployment if I was given an end of employment date before 90 days?

    • 90 days means nothing. Since you quit the other job – if you can’t prove good cause, you need to have earned at this current job 12xWBA. Your WBA in MI would be about 53% of your weekly wage. Which means if you are earning $500/wk, your benefit will be $266 and you need to have earned at least $3,192 gross at this current job to purge the quit penalty. You’ve been there long enough you’ve done that. MI may want proof of earnings as all your wages probably won’t have been reported when you quit.

  • Amelia

    On June 29th I was told my position was being eliminated. I was however, offered another job sitting at the front desk answering phone calls. The new position would take away 11 of my vacation days as it would mean I am an hourly employee now. We were told we needed to give an answer whether we accept or deny the position by July 14th, however I told them nothing as I was on vacation. When I got back they did not ask if I accepted the position or not just had me start doing the other job. I only started this position as I am a recent college graduate on May 1st so my 90 days is not up until July 29th. If I was to tell them I do not accept the position on July 31st, but will continue to work until they give me a done date would I be eligible for unemployment? As I said I am a recent graduate so I do not know anything about how this all works! Thank you!

    • The new position is unsuitable as it was not the position for which you were hired. So, you can quit. Whether or not you get benefits will depend on your work history. If your only employment in the past 15 months has been this job, it is more than likely you may not have earned enough or worked long enough to qualify for a claim. Applying now, MI requires earnings in two calendar quarters ending 6/30/2017. Sounds like you won’t meet that criteria. But, apply anyway. MI may find a way to qualify you.

      • Amelia

        I held another full time position from February 27th-April 27th, but left the job as my current employer recruited me to work there without even applying. Before that I held a part time job as a student worker at my college. Would this count towards it or does all 15 months have to be full time? Thanks for your help!

        • You aren’t required to work 15 months. That 15 months is your potential base period in which MI examines earnings. In your case, MI should use its alternate base period of July 1, 2016-June 30, 2017. If you’ve had earnings in at least two quarters during that period and earned at least $3,453 gross in one quarter and have total gross wages in the base period of $5,180, you are eligible.

  • I live in Michigan. My First day on the job was 6/20/2016. My Doctor has put me on medical Leave as of 07/05/2017, Acute Pancreatits. I did submit medical papers to my employer and I am off until august 15th which then I will be Re-Evaluated to be able to return to work at my Doctors discretion. Can I apply for unemployment benefits. I am my own head of household. I also have 5 paid vacation days in which I cannot not receive because am not currently working. I just received my last check on 7/13/2017. What can I or cannot do with my unemployment benefits or do I even Qualify or do I need to get an attorney.

    • Inability to work disqualifies you from unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are paid to those who are fit to search for and accept work and actually perform work. No attorney can help you receive unemployment benefits when you are on medical disability.

      CA, NY, NJ have state-sponsored programs for people in your exact situation. Look into short-term disability insurance programs either through your employer or the State of Michigan. Check with your MI social services people for help.

  • Robin

    My position was recently eliminated. I was offered a totally different position, that would require me to travel every other week in the fall to NY, WI, and the upper peninsula of Michigan. Can I turn this position down and still qualify for unemployment? I feel like I should since they totally eliminated my position and are asking all this travel of me. I told them I don’t accept the position but would stay on as long as they need me to to help with the transition. They still want me to submit a letter HR saying I don’t accept and when my last day is. Shouldn’t they be telling me when my last day is? I just don’t want to say the wrong thing and ruin my unemployment chances.

    • Submit a letter stating inasmuch as your original position has been eliminated, and the new position offered is substantially and materially different in that it requires extensive travel, you are refusing that position as unsuitable. Reiterate you will remain in your current position until your firm officially terminates you. You do NOT give a final date. Let THEM discharge you.

      • Robin

        How does this sound:
        To whom it may concern,

        On June 29th, 2017 I was notified that my current position, *insert title here* at *insert employer here* would be eliminated. I was offered a completely new position as an *insert new position here*, which is substantially and materially different in that it requires extensive travel, and am refusing that position as unsuitable. I will remain in my current position until *insert employer here* officially terminates me.

        Anything else I should add? Should These circumstances make me eligible for unemployment?

        • The letter is fine. Yes, you are eligible. There are no grounds for a denial. Job refusals require adjudication/review. If you are denied – many states do that hoping you’ll go away – appeal. You will win on appeal. USDOL program letter outlining these exact circumstances, here: https://wdr.doleta.gov/directives/attach/UIPL41-98.cfm

          • Robin

            I submitted the letter and this is the response I got back today:

            As you’ve decided to decline this offer of continued employment, your last day with us will be this Friday, July 21, 2017. We will reach out to you for an exit interview this week.

            So what do I do now?

            Thanks for all your help on this!!

          • Good – they have given you a discharge date. Have the exit interview. Apply for benefits immediately thereafter and let the process run its course.

          • Robin

            Do I need to be concerned about anything in my exit interview being used against me in regards to unemployment?

  • Leanne Perez

    If my employer closes for only one week at a time, am I still able to file for unemployment?

    • MI does not have an unpaid waiting week, so technically you could file. You’ll be at work for a month before MI is able to pay you, however. Claims processing takes time.

      • Laura McCarthy

        I am sorry to post my question here however for some reason i was unable to start my own thread. I received two different determinations in the mail. I quit two jobs before being fired from two more. I was disqualified for the two that I quit and given rework. However for the two I was fired from i was NOT disqualified. My question is am I eligible and will I receive my check? My last two employers are the ones that I was fired from and NOT disqualified from. Thank you

  • April Hansen

    My husband Had found a better paying job, and 3 weeks after he was placed on weight restrictions, due to a hernia, and the new company said they had no work for him due to restrictions. He filed for unemployment and the new company told unemployment he quit with 3 or more no calls/no show… how and where do we fight this..hes able and willing, and looking for work .

    • You appeal the decision and provide medical evidence to refute employer’s claims. Denials are not cast in stone, but routine attempts to discourage people from collecting benefits. MI should have provided instructions on how to appeal. File the appeal request now. MI also provides free advocates. Avail yourself of that service. Advocate information is available on the MI unemployment site.

  • Leonard Treman

    Hey, I was furlowed from my job for 6 weeks. The furlow went from march 1st until april 10th. On march 12th 2017, I filed for unemployment. It has been pending with a previous employer for 39 days at this point. With 6 weeks of pay reduced to half my savings are decimated. How long does it usually take the UIA to make a decision?

    Ps. I have contacted my state rep. She has not called or emailed back. What are my options?

    • Decisions can take up to 8-10 weeks, or longer. MI isn’t the most claimant-friendly state. Try your rep again via email and phone, be a pest – and also write the governor’s office and other state officials. Six weeks is way too long.

  • Toby Beeman

    i receive 10 day hold on my certification, two of them, i thought i follow what they had me doing, it a tempory layoff for two to three weeks, i am on my second week. i trying to get hold of the office to find out why it on hold..

    did i do something wrong, i work for warehouse

    • Did you reopen an existing claim or apply for a new claim? Either way, processing will take at least three-four weeks. Unemployment benefits are never paid immediately. If, in another week, you still haven’t heard from MI or your claim remains stalled, email your elected state representative. Find yours, here:

      http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

      State reps are very effective in getting answers from the state.

  • Michelle

    I was laid off from my job the beginning of this year.
    I interviewed and started work/orientation March 10th, the next week I reported for the previous two weeks and my new job.
    I was paid for only one week and I am quoting their letter “You failed to seek work 3/5/2017 to 3/11/2017 due to returning to work full time.” Good cause for failure to seek work has not been established, you do not meet the seeking work requirements of the Mes act.
    Could you please explain how they can penalize you for working.
    Honestly that is the one most ridiculous letters I have received from this agency.
    I really could use that money, and feel that it is owed to me.
    Please advise my best course of action.

    • When you claimed that week, you should have reported you did search for work, and also reported that you worked on Fri. 3/10 and listed the gross pay for that day.

      You need to appeal that ruling, but first try to get through to MI by phone. I know that’s impossible. Otherwise, email your state rep – tell him they made a mistake and you can’t get through to anyone. He’ll get through to MI and they will contact you. Find your rep, here:

      http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

      http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

      • Michelle

        I called first and the man Jerry, thought it was funny and told me to protest…..and the letter I just quoted you, is their answer.
        You know the system is set up for claimants to fail, I thought I was doing the right thing. The whole thing is u clear
        But I appreciate you answering. Guess there is not much I can do about it

  • R

    I received a fraud/identity theft letter from Michigan UIA stating that the claim number may have been established due to identity theft and I should go to the problem resolution office to show a form of id…what does this mean?

  • Joseph Holahan

    A simple question that i’m on hold for 3+ hours trying to get an answer. My former company was sold late last year. Both entities are showing up on my initial online claim. So what do i answer for reason leaving the old company? I didn’t leave it, it just changed names. Is that technically being laid-off (and immediately rehired)?

  • Gino Valdez

    I started working on February 9 and I was to call Marvin on the 13 to collect my past 2 weeks , so I answered the questions and It shows that my weeks were deducted but the money hasn’t showed up is there anything I can do or what should I go to collect it ?

    • Did you actually START a job on 2/09 or did you LOSE a job? If you informed MI you were intending to start a new job when you last certified, MI may take forever to process those two weeks. It is NEVER necessary to inform the unemployment office that you plan to begin work. Just stop claiming when you begin work and let it end there. Giving the UI office a headsup accomplishes nothing but to prematurely stop your benefits while they “investigate.”

      If you actually lost your job on 2/09, know that most states are not in a position to pay on any claim until four weeks after application. Expect to wait at least another two or three weeks for MI to process and approve the claim and release payment. If, after March 9th, you hear nothing, email your state representative on the delay. Find yours, here;

      http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

      Meanwhile, keep filing weekly certifications.

  • Kelli

    My husband was working part time, getting on average 30 hours a week. For the last four weeks he has been scheduled 0-6 hours a week. Can he apply for unemployment? Even though he is still working the one day a week?

    • Yes. MI will multiply his high quarter earnings by 4.1% to determine his benefit, not to exceed $362/wk. MI will deduct 60% of his gross earnings from the benefit and pay the difference. If he has a week with more than just a very few hours, he should not claim at all because MI only pays 20 “weeks” benefits and reduces the claim by one “week” for every week claimed, regardless of net benefit paid. So, hubby should limit his claims to weeks where he is not working at all or only working a very few hours.

  • Beckie

    Hello,

    I filed for unemployment for the first time, after my company eliminated my department and offered us a 13 week (one time lump payment) severance. I was approved for unemployment benefits for 20 weeks, however I am having a lot of trouble getting paid for them. This is week 4 and I still have not received any payments. I did not receive anything in the mail, and was waiting for the entire first week. After that I logged on online to claim my first 2 weeks and noticed that there was a letter sent to me at least 11 days before that, explaining my benefits and payments. I was told by a friend that I should have received a green book with information (which I have not). I checked my address on file and it is correct, so I am not sure why I have not received anything in the mail, as this process seems very complicated and there is not very clear instructions on what the next steps should be on the website. My issue is that I just logged on and noticed my first 2 weeks I claimed were both denied because I did not know that I need to register with Michigan Works in person by 02/13/17 ( I had registered online on 02/13/17, but I did not go to the local office to get a stamp until 02/16/17). In summary my questions are:
    1. Does my severance affect anything with collecting unemployment benefits?
    2. Do I really lose 2 weeks of pay because of the MI works registration? Do I have any appeal options to this? I have been actively applying for jobs the entire time, just not through MI works.

    Thank you

    • 1. Severance, even if paid lump sum, can reduce number of weeks of unemployment benefits depending on how it is reported by the employer to the State of MI. It is called “allocation.” It is quite possible you should have not claimed any weeks of benefits until the weeks attributable to the severance had passed. If your employer allocated that severance by weeks, you may very well have permanently lost a week of benefits for every week of severance paid.

      Example: MI only pays 20 weeks’ benefits. If you received eight weeks severance and if your severance has a weekly allocation and you have thus far claimed four weeks, regardless of lump sum payment, that means you have 16 weeks benefits remaining, b/c benefits for the four claimed weeks were offset by the severance.

      http://www.michigan.gov/documents/uia/125_–_Severance_pay_04_29_09_277316_7.pdf

      The only way to avoid having your benefits continually offset by severance is to STOP CLAIMING until the severance period has elapsed.

      If you still have weeks of severance not YET offset, STOP CLAIMING.

      2. Not registering w/MI Works should only DELAY payment of benefits for those weeks, not erase them. You can claim those weeks going forward provided your severance isn’t an offset.

      • Beckie

        Ok thank you!

        this may sound a bit strange, but is it possible to erase my claim and start all over? I have not collected anything and I was not familiar with the process at all.

        • No – it’s too late, because you’ve already claimed weeks of benefits. Had you attempted to do this within 30 days of filing AND had not yet certified for any weeks, MI might have cancelled. Most states do.

          Now, it’s probably too late, although no harm in asking. Call or write a letter saying you want to cancel the claim because you plan to reapply later. See what happens.

  • Mark Ward

    Since around 03-Jan-2017, the determination status for my claim
    has been “Pending Rebuttal-Add Additional Docs-In Progress.”

    What does this status mean for me? How much longer do I
    have to wait for this “Pending Rebuttal” to be resolved?

    MiWAM has 8 payments all lined up and ready to be deposited
    into my checking account, but the deposits are waiting for a
    rebuttal from somebody somewhere.

    • What does MI tell you when you call? If you haven’t been able to get through, email your state representative. Find yours, here:

      http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

      • Mark Ward

        Thanks for the state rep link.

        Every time I’ve tried to call (866-500-0017) since Jan. 2 ’17 (15-20 spread out
        calls at least), I’ve received the same recording that says UIA is unable to field
        the call. No place to leave a voicemail, either. I have messaging capability on
        MiWAM, but my first message to UIA (sent 4 days ago) hasn’t received a
        response yet.

        If these communication problems continue, do you think it would be worth
        my effort to drive the 100 mile roundtrip to the nearest office?

        • No. EMAIL YOUR STATE REP – now. Driving 100 miies is ridiculous, and you shouldn’t have to spend the time and money to do it if MI would just do its job – but they don’t care. MI has always had communication problems. So assert your rights and make MI do its job.

          State reps work for you. Email that rep, now – and follow up w/phone calls to that rep if he is unresponsive. Most reps respond immediately and are very successful in getting states to act.

  • Larry

    I have been collecting SSDI benefits since June of 2015. My claim is up for review this April. Since then I was put on long term disability by my employer and my position was eliminated. Since then the company has been sold and is moving all jobs overseas. My question is, if my claim is denied and I am found well enough to work, can I collect unemployment insurance while I am searching for a job?

    • You won’t have enough wages in your base period to qualify. In April, MI will be looking at wages Jan-Dec.2016. You haven’t worked since June 2015. There are no wages on which to base a claim.

      There is no harm in applying, however.

  • Bob

    I just got laid off jan 13 2017. after working full time since may 2016-previously was off work and looking since jan 1 2016. I got a small severance package middle of jan 2016–When I was cut to part time in 2015 I started taking my SSI early..I am now full retirement age Collecting SSI and was laid off after work full time last year..Can I still collect unemployment-state of Micihgan

    • You’ve just lost employment. Apply for benefits. States do not offset unemployment benefits with SS benefits. SS benefits don’t matter – nor does your age.

      Employer-paid pensions and 401k withdrawals, on the other hand, ARE offsets. Do not withdraw from a 401k while drawing unemployment benefits. Either rollover the 401k into an IRA, or wait until your benefits are exhausted.

  • Pat

    My wife has been working at a health care agency for 3 years. She has just been told that they are going to transfer her to another branch location 25 miles away. If she does not accept the transfer, they told her that they will be considered that she is leaving the company by her choice. If she does not accept this transfer, and they let her go, can she still collect?

    • How far is she traveling to work now?
      How far from home will this new job be?
      Will traveling from home to the new location present a financial hardship?
      Are car pools available or will company be establishing same?

      In your neighboring state of Indiana, anything more than 30 miles from home is considered excessive, becomes a material change in the employment contract, therefore a good cause reason for refusing the job at the new location. Assume MI has similar requirements unless, in your area, longer travel distances to work are considered “prevailing.”

      • Pat

        She drives 5 miles to the current location. A 10 min commute on local roads. The new location is 20 miles on highways, and with rush hour traffic, a 45 min commute one way. With the increase in fuel cost, and wear/ tear on the car, yes, this will be a hardship. Also driving 1.5 hours a day vs 20 mins. a day is also a hardship. There is no car pool, or company car pool available. She also feels that in giving her this long distance option, my wife will just quit, and find something else without trying to collect. There are other closer locations, but they claim currently there are no opening for her skills at these locations.

        • Well, if she quits, she should by all means apply. She loses nothing by trying. Certainly, this is a material change in the terms of employment. A quadrupling of commute time and attendant costs may convince MI to approve the claim. Be specific on the exact mileage and actual add’l $$ amount of transportation costs. If she is initially denied, she should appeal. Many benefits are won at appeal. Too often people don’t bother.

  • Dave

    In many any of the previous years I was laid-off during the Christmas – New Years break, usually for one week. I always filed and received unemployment benefits for the week. Those benefits were always paid within a reasonable time. This year is different, the state is claiming “more time is needed for processing.” What is so different this year.

  • Heather Johne

    January 2016 I was denied benefits for quitting a part time job. I knew I was eligible for unemployment benefits because i was laid off from my other full time job.

    My question is this: I had to hire an attorney to prove I was correct in receiving benefits and file and appeal, which I won. Can I file a claim to get back the attorney fees I had to pay to prove I was correct?

    • No. There is no provision for restitution to you in the event the state errs – which all the states do ALL the time – some outright flagrantly in contravention of written statute. You can file a lawsuit in small claims court, of course. Do some legal research first.

  • Dee

    My husband certified on MIWAM yesterday for 2 weeks and the status says, “additional claim required”. What does that mean?

  • Vincent

    I had a ten day hold on my account and I called Marvin last week on Tuesday…I receive my determination and everything I check my miweb account and it told me I would be paid but it’s short 200 and I haven’t signed up for any deductions can u tell me what the problem may be?

  • Kari

    My husband called in to certify for his 2 weeks last Monday and they put a ten day hold on his payments because of some thing to do with Michigan works. Anyways, he went down to the unemployment office to give them the Michigan works proof and the worker there told him that he will have his money by the next Tuesday or Wednesday. Tuesday will be the 8th day since he called in but the “ten day hold” didn’t show up on MIWAM until 2 days after he called in to certify. So I’m asking if anyone knows if the unemployment office worker did something so he will get his money a couple days before the ten day hold is up or she just did her math wrong. Is this possible for them to do? If he does end up having to wait the whole ten days will the ten days start from the Monday he called to certify or when the ten day hold appeared on his MIWAM ? Thanks!

    • You’re the second person in the past two days w/a Q on the 10-day hold. My guess is that the hold begins the day the payment is to be made. If he normally certifies on Sunday and the money appears on the card on Tuesday, then the payment for that week will actually be appear on the card the following Thursday or Friday. Seeing the worker has accelerated the payment by a couple of days. Sounds like he didn’t upload a resume???

      • Kari

        He certifies on Mondays. The first time he called in this year, which was on a Monday, the money was on the card the next day. Previous years it usually took 2 days. He had weeks left from last year so he had to register with Michigan Works but after his year ended and he opened a new claim he didn’t go back and re-register. So when he went to certify they said he wasn’t registered when M.W..So he went and did it but it was late and they put the ten day hold on. I’m not sure if the worker accelerated the payment, I sure hope so! Do you know if that’s possible for them to do?

  • Julia

    I’m collecting unemployment and I just started school part time a week ago. And it’s saying they need additional information. Does this mean I’m not going to be receiving unemployment anymore?

  • cz brwon

    Does employer have a certain amount of time in which they are required to review and approve (or deny) a claim? Dismissed employee submitted claim 12/29/16, and it is 1/16/17, and the claim is still pending with the employer according to online system Upon dismissal, employee received letter from employer stating they would pay/approve unemployment claim. If there is a timeframe required by employer, what is it? At what point is unreasonable to wait for employer review? And, when it reaches that point, what is dismissed employees next steps?

    • MI can drag its heels – but at this point you need to give the state/employer a few more days. Then try calling MI. It’s early days, yet.

      Claims are rarely approved and paid under three weeks from filing – and that is best case. Under USDOL regs states have 21 days to approve a claim. Many will begin paying benefits after three weeks if employer has not responded. Some won’t. If the employer response is received late and is negative, some states suspend benefits pending an investigation. States give employers enormous latitude with responses and late appeals, some filing appeals as much as a year late.

      Your only other recourse if too much time goes by is to email your state representative. Find yours, here:

      http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

  • Janay

    I was denied unemployment I protested and one now after weeks of receiving benefits the employer filesvan appeal on the last day their appeal was due . I just certified and got a amount. Will I still receive benefits until they have a decision on the appeal or does it stop until a decision is made?

  • i am starting to recieve my deceased wifes social security this month i have been working some but was laid off and started drawing unemploymeny last month i am back to work but i have 1 week eligably in january can i draw for this one week with her social security starting

  • Omar ramirez

    Can I be denied unemployment benefits from my employer. Of I chose not to plow snow?

    • Depends on why you were hired. No matter, if employer contests, you will be initially denied and need to appeal to prove plowing snow was a material change to your employment contract and not why you were hired.

  • Sue F.

    What does it mean in the certification status “ten day hold”?

    • Are you with Ford or a Union: This may apply:

      3. I received a letter from the UIA with different certification instructions. What should I do?

      You must follow the instructions that are on the bulletin posted in your plant. These instructions are specific to your plant, and will facilitate the fastest payment.

      4. Wouldn’t it be faster if I file my own unemployment claim?

      No. Ford Motor Company participates in a special Employer Filed Claims (EFC) program.
      Companies that participate in this program file unemployment claims on behalf of employees
      during full weeks of temporary or indefinite layoff.

      If you open your own claim, this will create an unnecessary “10 day hold”, which means that the
      State of Michigan must hold your claim for 10 days prior to issuing payment under State law.

      http://qa.at.ford.com/SiteCollectionImages/2011_U.S._Plant_Pages/AAI/2013/FRAP%20Unemployment%20FAQs%20_%20final.pdf

      • Sue F.

        I am not a Ford employee. I am however a union employee that every year get laid off due to lack of work in the winter months (road construction). My company does not participate in an EFC program. Therefore, why the 10 day hold?

        • You need to talk to MI. MI may be incorrectly applying rules for another employer to your claim. States make mistakes all the time.

          • Sue F.

            I spoke with a representative this morning. They stated the 10 day hold still applies to my claim. I had an old claim that expired on 12/23. I claimed my two weeks off work on the old claim and received payment and then was told to open a new claim on 12/27/16. Which I did. Now they are going to put a 10 day hold on the new claim and hold up money that is owed to me. That does not seem correct.

          • It may or may not be correct. What REASON did they give you for this?

          • Sue F.

            She stated due to the holiday and their office closed it is delaying things.

  • chris

    Hello,
    I was told by my work that I cannot file for unemployment. I was not feeling well and ended up in the hospital. Found out I have heart failure. I was on short term disability for 6 months and did not work. During that time I had a defibrillator / pace maker implanted because my heart didn’t heal much during that time. After the 6 months disability was over my doctor released me for work with a weight restriction of not lifting, pushing or pulling over 25 pounds. I work at a shop in a foundry. They told me that they didn’t have a position for me with those restrictions. They said that I will be put on a list and when a job opens up that I can do that they will let me know. That was in November. They have stopped my healthcare and offered my a cobra plan for me and my family. Which of course I cannot afford because I don’t have any income. They said I am still considered an employee and that I’m not layed off or fired and if and when they come across a position for me they will call me. I live in Michigan

    The question is: is this legal and can I get unemployment? They told me because they are not laying me off or firing me that I cannot collect.

    any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Chris

    • Not true. If employer is offering you COBRA, you have already been discharged/experienced an hours reduction – which creates eligibility. You should absolutely apply for benefits. Do this immediately. It will take a while for MI to process your claim.

      • chris

        Thanks for the information. I called work today to talk to them about my job again. They told me that I’m out on medical leave because of my restrictions. And when my restrictions are removed to call them and they will find me a position. I told them that my restrictions are life long and I have heart failure and a defibrillator implant. They told me that I will be on medical leave for several years (as many years as I have worked with the company). And being on medical leave, I cannot apply for unemployment. I’m bringing this up because in the previous post I did not mention that they have me off on medical leave and wanted to make sure that doesn’t disqualify me for unemployment.

        • Medical leave will disqualify you. Unemployment benefits are paid to people can work. You need to be Able and Available to search for and accept work. If you are incapable of working, you are ineligible for unemployment benefits.

          You should be applying for Social Security Disability Benefits. Approval takes – best case – six months, often years. An SSDI atty can be very helpful in navigating the red tape.

          • chris

            I’m able to work with restrictions. I can’t lift, push or pull anything over 25 pounds. I can work. I don’t consider myself disabled.

          • In that case, apply for benefits. Provide doctor’s evidence of your ability to work and your employer’s inability/unwillingness to accommodate your restriction.

  • Paul Ross

    I had a heart attack in September at work. My doctor told me to find a different job because I work in a casino and in a smoke filled area, I’m a pit boss on the casino floor. I was told by management they would get me a position out of the smoke filled area or cigarette, cigar ECT.. Hasn’t happened. If I quit am I eligible for unemployment?

    • If you have provided your employer doctor’s evidence and asked for a change in duties and they have not complied, then, yes, you would be quitting for medical reasons. Hopefully, you have a paper trail of these activities. Know that in MI it may take quite a while before MI pays benefits.

  • Sara Cooper

    I received a message that said “Claim activity has occurred which may impact your eligibility for unemployment benefits or may obligate you to repay benefits previously issued.”

    First of all, I was denied, so I’m not sure what this is all about. Is this just some standard message they send when activity occurs to ensure people do what they should? I also have a date that it says I need to check-in by, but if I was denied, why would I have to check in? Is this an error?

  • Tessa

    My dad worked for a Michigan-based company at an overseas location. He was recently let go and is moving back to the US – will he qualify to receive unemployment benefits? Thanks!

  • Donn

    My wife was recently let go from a company that has business in multiple states. She transferred to FL mid year 2015, transferred back to Mi in late Apr 2016, where should she file! Same company!

  • Sherry

    I am considering retiring from my present employer of 19 years. I am 54, and plan to seek other employment. If I can not find employment in a matter of months, am I eligible for unemployment benefits?

    • Retiring in and of itself is never qualifying. Essentially, you are quitting without good cause. Unless this a forced retirement wherein your employer says take early retirement or lose your job, no, you are not eligible for benefits. Further, even if this is a forced retirement, any pension benefits you receive would be a direct offset to unemployment benefits.

  • NM

    After doing my first bi-weekly filing online, it states the amount I’m going to be receiving is HALF the amount I was told I would receive per week. How do I get ahold of someone to see what’s going on?

  • Romancito A Sy Qui

    I applied for benefits on Dec. 13th and Finished my scheduled online Marvin questions today. When will i recieve my first payment?.. It said all weekly reports accepted and payment will be issued the next business day. So does that mean I will recieve pay tomorrow on my debt card they sent me?

  • ABuch

    Just wondering, are payments delayed due to the holiday weekend in MI?

  • Step

    I never knew how to report earnings so i never did. I went back and read the book now I know how. What do i do

    • What you report isn’t what matters. What matters is what is in the MI database. Review your UI award letter. Does it report accurate earnings for you in the base period. If not, notify MI. You may need to provide paystubs. Awards are NEVER made on the basis of what you say in your application.

  • Laura McCarthy

    Wondering why I’m answering fact finding for an employer that I quit working for in August 2016 when I had another job since then that I was laid off from in November?

    • Because an investigation of prior employment going back 18 months is standard procedure whenever a claim is opened. If you quit without cause, your state requires you earn enough money at the new job to purge the quit. Four-five months work should have cleared any monetary penalty. You may need to provide paystubs if MI doesn’t have all your current wages in its database.

      • Laura McCarthy

        Thank you! I quit because I was demoted. Twice actually. The first time I was told it was punishment for having a disagreement with the manager that wrote the schedule. Lasted two weeks with a substantial pay cut. No verbal or written warnings. I feared it would happen again or worse be terminated without any earning so I got a second job. It was only part time. Good thing because a few months later I was demoted permanently. I quit because once again there was no legitimate reason for the demotion. This one was a 6$ an hour pay cut. No write-ups or verbal warnings. I committed 100% to my other part time job. Maybe I didn’t make enough money there? It was only part time. Question finally…. Does that constitute good cause for quitting? I included my own statement explaining the demotion to uia with the fact finding. Thanks again

  • Paul

    My wife has been a victim of identity theft.Someone has filed for unemployment using her maiden name(from 18 years ago)and current work history.Her employer denied the claim.We just received a letter that says she has to appear within ten days to prove her identity,and same day got a debt card with unemployment benefits.Do we have to appear,because we are not contesting that this is fraud,and are not going to activate debt card.

    • If MI is demanding an appearance to prove identity – a very unusual request – presumably this is b/c you/her employer notified MI of this identity fraud. On that basis, it would seem you do not need to appear.

      You should, however, return that debit card with a clear explanation of why you are doing this. This card, per your post is loaded with funds. At some future point, MI will want that money back and may ask you for this money, regardless you haven’t activated the card or withdrawn the funds.

      You want to be sure MI voids that card and claws back that money. You can’t assume this will happen. You need to make sure it will happen. You need to return that card – certified mail/return receipt requested, and keep copies of the card and cover letter for your records. Be very clear in that letter this was fraud. cc your wife’s employer, as well.

      • Julie Buck

        Yes, you do need to appear at ur nearest Problem Resolutions Office!!!!! My 26 year old son has been going through the exact same circumstance since the end of September 2016 and still having issues. SO, BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY, get there 1st thing in the morning and check the holiday and furloughed schedule for closings, get copies of anything you write down and submit upon your visit, and document who you speak with and details in your own reference log. Im serious as they come when I tell you that for your benefit only. Because UIA just doesn’t seem to know what one office or department is sharing with another and things get lost easily!! It’s not like decades ago when a file is kept in each county it originated from. For your situation my advice is documentation, documentation, documentation…and follow up! If you do not act on this fraud letter at a PRO Office, UIA will rule 30 days later with a Determination letter stating you’re not eligible for benefits, for failing to appear, and stop payments on existing claim. Then, you have another beast… the protest process. Don’t get me started there. It’s all happening to my Son and he went to Saginaw, over 40 miles away from our home and we did everything correctly. I’m furious and considering calling my State Representative or an UIA advocate to speak and act on our behalf. We’ve been promised it’s being corrected time and time again, after 2 visits to Saginaw and multiple calls until they stopped allowing calls to be on hold and answered thru customer service number, and thus requesting all persons to go to nearest PRO Office. Same thing with fraud department number but they just don’t call u back. Did so on 3 occasions and left detailed information with zero luck! Verrrry stressful!! hope your situation goes much better!

    • Julie Buck

      And, it’s not an unusual request. It’s per usual! Standard procedure! We asked

  • Terry Stingley

    I collected unemployment for the first time in my life in 2015, for the full 20 weeks. My last unemployment check was in November of 2015, I am currently working again, but it is a precarious position with a fair amount of turnover. So the potential to be unemployed again is always looming.

    My question then is whether or not, after having collected benefits in 2015, would I be eligible again in the future to collect unemployment should I be laid of in say, June?

    Thanks for the help.

  • ray

    My company has declared a surplus which will result in layoffs. But company makes offer for voluntary retirement to eliminate layoff . will the person that volunteers for retirement be eligible for unemployment. Thank you?

  • P Sampson

    If an employee is laid off for a period of one week, with a firm return to work date, do they have to file at Michigan works?

  • What happens if I get a job offer that starts 3 weeks from now? Do I continue to call Marvin and do I keep listing contacts even though I have a job offer and passed the physical?

    • A promise of a job is not a job until you actually begin that job. Job offers are withdrawn all the time. You continue your work searches and continue to file claims for each week you are unemployed until your new job begins.

  • Kris

    I have been employed full time for what would be 2 years in March 2016, I have an offer to go to a different employer to fill in while that girl is on maternity leave, their company is too small for her to use FMLA, so I’m not sure if they even pay into UIA. My question is, this new employer is hoping this girl doesnt come back. BUT if she does, I will be out of a job at that point. Will I be able to claim UIA because of the layoff? even if that said new employer doesnt pay into UIA, because I made enough money at the previous employer? And can the PREVIOUS employer fight the claim?

    • Your new employer, even if it has only one employee, is required to pay into the unemployment insurance benefit program. Per MI statutes:

      http://www.michigan.gov/uia/0,4680,7-118-26898_27193-78830–,00.html

      Yes, you can file for unemployment if you are laid off. Previous employer won’t ‘fight’ the claim, other than to say you have quit. In order to qualify for benefits in MI after a quit without good cause, you will need to have worked at the new job and earned 12x your Weekly Benefit Amount before MI will pay benefits. This means if you are eligible for the maximum benefit of $362, you will need to have earned at least $4,344 before the layoff.

  • Lezlie McDaniel

    I have been a seasonal worker for the past 8 years. Normally we are laid off in April about the time my benefit year renews. We have been told that this time we may be looking at a February 1st layoff due to circumstances beyond our control. My question is..do I apply for unemployment right away even though my benefit year down not start again until April or do I wait until my benefit year starts again before applying? I believe I was told at one point that filing must be done within 2 weeks of layoff?

  • Gerry C

    I am on a temporary/seasonal layoff from my regular job, with a call-back to work date of a little over 3 months.

    During this interim period I have a sure offer of part-time employment. I know that too much earnings will cut into unemployment benefits.

    So the question is: How much (the maximum) of $$$ earnings can I make in a week and still collect FULL unemployment benefits?

    • MI pays benefits in “WEEKS.” Let’s say your claim pays 20 weeks benefits, which is the maximum MI pays. If you claim in a week in which you have worked and report gross earnings, MI will pay a partial benefit – but MI then deducts that entire “week” from “weeks to be paid” regardless of earnings, leaving 19 weeks to be claimed. Therefore, unless you are earning very little and will get the majority of your weekly benefit, don’t claim that week. Michigan calls this a “Reduction of Balance of Weeks,” explained on page 11, here:

      http://www.michigan.gov/documents/uia_UC1905_76147_7.pdf

  • lisa wilson

    my daughter and i live at the same address can we both apply for unemployment from the same address at the same time? we both worked with the same address. and both were layed off at the same time

    • Yes, you both receive benefits. You are two individuals with two individual jobs for which your employer(s) paid two individual FUTA taxes and you have two individual SSN identifiers. Yes, you both receive unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are not an entitlement, nor are they means-tested by household income or assets. Your address is irrelevant.

  • Sarah

    Hi! I’ve looked this up in multiple places and looked over the information I was given thoroughly but I want a clear answer if possible.

    Am I allowed to continue to collect benefits while temporarily living outside of the US?

    Important information to note: I have been applying to work online exclusively and will be doing the same while living abroad. I do not have a set schedule of travel or activities because I am indeed seeking full time work online. This is the kind of work that I have experience in doing on the side (started over a year before my previous job ended) and have part-time clients in currently (all money I earn is being reported).

    A possible issue I see here is my contact information. My home address will remain the same since I am not planning to move permanently. I am still able to receive mail and phone messages (through family) while living abroad. Will this be enough for me to remain eligible? While I’m seeking work, I’ll be moving around and staying flexible for online clients but my location will change a lot and it will still be easier for them to reach me via my home address in Michigan.

    Also, another possible issue I could see is that they may think I am unavailable or unable to work. I am working my schedule around job searches and client work so I see myself as completely available and able to work these online positions. I have no major plans that get in the way of accepting the full-time and part-time work I’m applying for.

    Finally, is there an issue with me simply being out of the United States or Michigan that makes me ineligible? I haven’t found anything stating this but I want to make sure I haven’t missed something. I will be applying for the same exact types of jobs I am looking for while living in Michigan so it really is no difference to me or potential employers in this area where I am physically because they are all online.

    Any advice or clarity you can send my way is very welcome,

    Thanks for your help!

    • Most states will not pay benefits nor allow you to claim while living outside the United States. Doesn’t matter if your “official” address is the US. You need to be physically present in the United States in order to claim benefits. NY will actually stop benefits and implement a ban on any future claims for two years if people attempt to claim from outside the U.S.

      Call MI and tell them your plans. In some cases, the states will allow out of country claims if you can prove you are searching for work out of the country and notify them in advance – but that is very rare. Generally, the answer will still probably be no. However, you won’t know for sure, until you call them.

  • Ricardo Hernandez

    Is there emergency unemployment or going to be…. Is there any thing for the needed

  • Louise

    If I am laid off can I apply for unemployment and Social Security. I would still be seeking employment.

  • Andrew

    I am a seasonal worker and I’ve filed for unemployment the past 3 years for the winter months. However, each year I’ve filed later and later in the year (I.e. November 10, 15, and last year November 22) This year we ended work very early, just last week, October 5, 2016. Does this mean I will not be able to file a new claim until November 22, 2016?

    • Possibly, depending on when your current benefit year expires. Only one claim is allowed per 52-week period. Check your claim information for the exact date, or call MI. You should be able to file the actual week the claim expires to get a jump on the processing.

  • Jennifer L Brown

    If your business’ owner sells the business and you get laid off after only having worked august 24, 2016 until now, are you eligible to receive unemployment? Because I didn’t really have a steady job previous to this current job. the last job i had ended in june 2015. would that make any difference?

  • Melissa Vaughn

    I worked last June and July for seasonal employers in ND made a little over 10,000.00 then returned to michigan and no work came back to ND June through Oct 4,2016 and made over )18,000 between two mostly one employer same as last years. I am michigan resident employer only have me here for seasonal work and provide all expenses to live now laid off I return to Michigan until called back. Do I file
    I’m ND or MI or both?

    • Living in MI is irrelevant. You file in the state where you last worked. Your employer should have reported your wages and paid UI tax to the State of North Dakota. Therefore, you file a claim w/North Dakota. Chances are you will have a much better claim if you can wait until January 3rd to file when ND will include wages through Sept. 30. Right now, ND will only look at wages July 1, 2015-June 30, 2016.

      This is how ND will calculate benefits:

      In North Dakota, your weekly benefit amount will be your total wages in the highest paid two-and-a-half quarters of the base period, divided by 65. Currently, the most you can receive each week is $633 per week; the minimum amount you can receive is $43 per week.

  • William Burcham

    If you were a part time employee and quit are you eligible for benefits? Employed for 13 years the last 3 were part time.

  • Nancy

    Is the amount that I’ve been approved for weekly? Or is it for two weeks?

  • D~

    I’m on my last week of unemployment is Michigan granting any extensions?

  • Stephanie yonkman

    I accidentally hit the wrong button when certifying, there was a determination and it was determined that it was not misrepresentation and I am still qualified for benefits, but now they say I owe the over 700.00 dollars back? I am appalled about this. I have documented all of my income from my part time job each time I certify, so how in the hell do I owe them anything? If I wasn’t eligible why did they send a partial payment? This is outrageous! I am protesting/appealing. I work minimum wage and haven’t worked 40 hours since filing this claim! I’m fed up beyond words!

    • Dutch

      Visit an in-person dispute resolution center near you, explain your problem and bring your documents, evidence, and statements with you. They can usually resolve most of these complaints right away

  • John

    I expect to be laid off within a few months after working my job for thirty-six years. Also I’m nearing age sixty-six, possibly a month or so later, and will then be able to draw Social Security. Can I draw both and if so what kind of adjustment might be made. (Worth mentioning, I’ll probably still be looking for another job in that period.)

  • Rory mcinerney

    Its been 2 weeks since i got my appeal decision by mail which concluded i was in fact eligable for benifits… how long will it take to get my compensation? Anyone have any past experience relative to mu situation that could lend me some perspectve?
    After appeal how long does it take to get paid?

  • Tedd

    I was laid off in June of last year, my unemployment did not get based off the employer that laid me off but the previous one since I made enough there. I got called back to work 5 weeks in, worked until January 15, 2016. I just tried to refile and it says that I am allowed 15 weeks and still under the unemployment benefit from the previous job that paid a large amount less. How should I go about this? Being that I have not worked anywhere but this employer for 15 months, shouldnt the unemployment be based solely on this job and the the previous minimum wage job?

    • No. You are not eligible for another claim in MI for one year. You REOPEN the existing claim. The claim is good for one year, and is based on whatever wages were used to establish that claim. When the current claim expires, the new wages you’ve earned after you opened the claim will serve to establish a new claim when the current claim expires.

  • John Bureau

    Carolyn for what it is worth I had a ten day hold put on my payment. Do you think I can get through to a live person to find out why? Hell no. the 18665000017 number is freaking useless

  • Carolyn

    Were benefit payments delayed due to the holiday? My account says payment was submitted, but nothing was added to my card.

  • Murphys Law

    Worked for the most crooked, corrupt company who fired me the same day my doctor medically released me to return to work following an approved medical leave for rotator cuff surgery. I applied for unemployment May 17th, 2015. They have claimed everything under the sun in order to have my benefits denied. I am on my 3rd appeal now with the MCAC and it has been 7 1/2 weeks and it is still “in process”. In total it has been 25 weeks since I initially filled and I haven’t received one cent. This is what happens to people like me who have always tried to do the right thing, always tried to be the bigger person, never burn bridges…maybe if I had just lied like they did I would have my benefits by now.

    • Murphys law

      Update…it is Feb 1st 2016 and still no benefits and still no determination from the MCAC. I called on Thursday January 28th and was told a determination was mailed or will be mailed on Friday the 29th. So I should have something in the mail today however the website does not reflect any change whatsoever. So we are going on 8 months without any benefits and without a determination. I am about to lose my car and my house. I have been busting my butt looking for a job, any job. I am at the end of my rope and I don’t know what to do next.

      • Me again

        Update… It is now February 1st 2016. That means I am now on my 8th month of fighting for benefits. My case is still with the MCAC review board. My case is still with the MC AC Review Board. I was told last Thursday by the MVA see that a determination had been made and it would go in the mail on Friday. That means I should get something in the mail today however the website remains on changed and there is nothing pending in my bank account. My house is about to go into foreclosure and my car is about to be repossessed. I am at the end of my rope and not sure what my next move will be. I have been hunting for a job since day one of filing for unemployment and I cannot seem to get one. This is what happens when you are an honest, hardworking person trying to do the right thing. Everyone else I know lies cheese and steals and they are way better off than I am.

  • Nevia. Masuku

    I was put on medical leave got short term benefits then ran out applied for long term got a denial I applied for SSD was aproved So my employer wrote to me saying due to doctors not releasing me back to work I am no longer have insurance and no longer employed did not offer any light duty do I apply for unemployment benefits ?

    • If you are approved for and are collecting Social Security Disability benefits, then you are not eligible for unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are paid if you are Able and Available – which means you have a medical release from your doctor and are able to search for and accept work.

  • How many months do I have to work to get unemployment?

  • Have to say going through the motions was a joke. I applied during a temporary lay off. I worked for my employer since May 2014. Applied for the week in March 2015. The UIA of Michigan predetermined I was eligible with all honest disclosure of my employement which included a month stint in oregon almost 2 years ago and needed to report on MARVIN to certify for benefits. Once that was done online the web site told me they would pay my benefit. On that day instead I got a notice saying my short term job in Oregon was voluntary termination and by that action i was disqaulified from recieving benefits after I was told twice I met criteria.

    • Tiffany

      Did you work after you had the brief job in Oregon?
      Because if you made 3,000 after you left Oregon then you meet the rework qualification requirements and are then deemed eligible but i noticed goverment agencies don’t like to tell you what your eligible for so of course you need to call them and tell them you qualified for rework and they owe you a week of benifits you had not received

    • @jim – yes, as stated, any quit has long since been purged by your subsequent earnings. Call MI or visit one of its offices to provide proof of these earnings. Otherwise, appeal.

  • I have filed for four weeks. Still no money. Called for an inquiry. It told me the amount of weeks payable and my check(s) amount. But still no money. I have done everything by the book. What is going on??

    • Most states are not in a position to approve and pay a claim only four weeks after application unless they’ve had advance notice from the employer of a layoff. Call MI or visit one of its offices – but, generally, claim investigations and approvals a while. And, MI is not known for fast approvals.

  • I do everything that is asked of me – am proving that I’m actively searching for work, willing to work. Applied in November and still nothing. Keeps saying I’m ineligible.

    • Alley

      Did you go in person a Michigan Works office? I missed that my first week and was denied. Since then, things have run smoothly for me. Maybe try calling? But don’t press the customer service line; the line never works. Try a different number, briefly explain your issue, and they can transfer you. I’ve done that several times to speak with someone.

    • @camron – you should have received a letter stating exactly why you are ineligible. You need to call MI or visit and office if you can’t find your correspondence. Ineligible could mean you don’t have enough wages in your base period, or it could mean on investigation MI found misconduct.

  • wondering what is going on with my benefits its going on 8 weeks and havent heard nothing to what is going on

  • Stopped getting benefits after two weeks. No re-determination? Hotline is always busy. How do I resolve?

    • Alley

      Don’t press the customer service line; the line never works. Try a different number, briefly explain your issue to the rep, and they can transfer you. I’ve done that several times to speak with someone.

      • Carol Kinsella

        I have been trying to call the 0017 number and its always busy. I called Marvin this morning and finished the first week. I started the second week and hit the wrong button which ended the session. I tried to call back but Marvin gave me the next call date. How do I rectify this? Thank you.

  • I can’t even begin a job training program until I have an answer. The State of Michigan and UIA have put my life on hold. Please if anybody even reads these I need help I will be living on the street for Christmas.

  • Please help its been 8 weeks since I filed. I accidentally wrote an incorrect date when initially filing I made this cmcorrection before the second determination but nobody saw my fax or looked at my file before they made a decision. This was on November 19. It is now Dec 15 I cannot get an answer out of anybody at the UIA. …. I even wrote and called the Attorney General. This is beyond ridiculous

  • It’s been almost five weeks of me still fighting. Some of my things say denied some say completed what is going on

  • I had to file a protest and it says it’s completed I called marvin and it said I get nothing but I got conformation saying it went through when Will I get something in the mail saying if I get unemployment or not please help

  • 2ND REQUEST FOR APPEAL DATE STILL IGNORED! NO CONTACT AT ALL.

  • How do I get a copy of benefits that have been paid in the past?

  • Have not gotten my unemployment yet, it is going on 5 weeks!

  • wondering what happen to my payment from 11/27/2013?

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